What the ****??!!

At 09:30 this morning 2 police cars and 4 policemen from Merseyside Police arrested British Constitution Group Chairman Roger Hayes at his Wirral home and drove away. The first his family heard of him was at 18:30 this evening via a telephone call from a Warder in Liverpool prison, to say that Roger had been tried and sentenced to prison. At no time were the family or any other members of the public informed of his arrest, and it is understood that he was tried in a secret court without a Jury.


We have all heard of summary justice – and while details have yet to emerge – it is incredible that in what is supposed to be a democracy someone can be arrested at 09;30 and by 18;30 the same day be imprisoned (sentence unknown at this time). It is understood that such an example of summary justice can be witnessed somewhere like North Korea – but in England?

Is this the nadir to which our country has sunk?

11 Responses

  1. Andy Baxter says:

    A writ of Habeas Corpus needs to be issued….shocking and brutal but we now know what we are up against….

  2. Ian says:

    The rot started many years ago, with the abolition of grand juries. Now we have ordinary juries disappearing, with inquisitorial magistrates acting on behalf of the establishment, and the scrapping of the double jeopardy rule. Revolution can’t come from above……

  3. DP111 says:

    You cant be serious. This England not USSR.

    When I wrote about the Supreme Council and Commissioners of the EUSSR, I was joking.

    No this cant be. Its just not possible. There is some mistake.

  4. DP111 says:

    Some background

    Hundreds of council tax protesters storm courtroom in attempt to make citizens’ arrest of judge


    Richard North had at one time suggested the withholding of Council tax- as it is the only one that a citizen still has in his power.

    Is RN aware of this?

  5. Edward. says:

    Appalling, Dave’s way is the EU way and that way is the road to the gulags.

  6. graham wood says:

    Leaving aside questions about RH’s non payment of Council Tax the arrest is the most shocking expression of the reality of our Police state as yet.
    The arresting authority have much to answer for, and we must raise questions with them pronto. Why a “secret” arrest, abduction by police, no witnesses, no open trial, and above all else, no writ of Habeas Corpus? All historic elements of what many have fought and died for – freedom from arbitrary arrest and from tyranny by the State, all legitimate and well established elements of a true justice system. – namely due process.
    MAGNA CARTA. (Clause 39) ” No free man shall be taken or imprisoned or dispossessed, or outlawed, or banished, or in any way destroyed….. except by the legal judgment of his peers.
    To no one will we sell, to no one will we deny, or delay right or justice.”
    I suggest the first step is to E mail our own MPs and ask them to call on the authority concerned to justify their actions against Roger.

  7. We’ve been putting up with this for several years now, usually in the family courts.

    Elsewhere, the police have been colluding with the RSPCA to make it appear that the charity workers are ‘officers’ and have legal powers they simply do not possess.

    Having got away with it for so long, the police have moved to straightforward political action.

    I’d like to see independent verification of this latest action, though, but I don’t have the slightest trouble believing it is possible.

  8. Cranmer points out that another blogger rang the council and checked the story. There was a due process; the only question is about whether Hayes knew of the hearing he should have been at or if he ignored it.


    Given the updates, what I’m guessing is that the police did what they were obliged to do. The prison is referring callers back to the council; I expect they are chuffed with the magistrate giving them a political prisoner who is making a point by symbolically withholding a small sum of money of no practical consequence, it’s not like they’ve got any other prisoners or over-crowding.

  9. james Higham says:

    Er, what did he actually do wrong?

  10. DP111 says:

    The question that commentators at Cranmer raise is whether Hayes deliberately ignored the summons. If he did, and prior evidence indicates that he did, then the magistrate did what was necessary. The police had no option but follow the orders of the court.

  11. david says:

    All will forgive me if I make a general reply, rather than individual.

    Roger Hayes did not refuse to pay, he withheld his payments pending questions he raised. It is unlikely that he deliberately ignored the last summons, having attended others. As Richard North posted, it can be argued that Hayes strategy can be queried (ie Freeman of the Land)however the question here is the rapidity with which he was dealt with.

    There is also the point that if the public and press were not aware of the hearing, then that hearing can be classified as secret. I am aware that this type of process does occur in family courts too. In respect of FullFact, it is worth visiting their website and checking who is on their staff – not what I would call impartial when viewing their cvs…..

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