That Speech – further brief thoughts (2)

Another factor which has come to mind is with reference to the assumption that following Cameron’s speech this morning he has shot the Ukip fox where Conservative-held marginals are concerned, thus removing the threat that Ukip might take Conservative votes, thereby letting Labour gain the seat.

It should be noted that unless MilibandE reverses his current position of denying the electorate a referendum on EU membership, his policy may well work to the disadvantage of Labour MPs whose seat is classified as marginal, whereby as things stand today Labour may well lose votes to Ukip, thus letting the Conservative candidate win – which is a sure-fire way of losing ones “Balls”, but I digress. Were I a betting man I could see myself putting a tenner on a change of “European” policy” prior to 2015 – one feels sure that “Mrs. Gary” will be bending the ear of EdM long before we reach “High Noon”.

There must be great concern among eurosceptics that a repeat of 1975 will occur, when the ‘No’ side were heavily out-spent and heavily out-PR’d by their opponents. Perhaps a move should be made to hire whoever managed the last ‘No’ campaign in Switzerland, or make an attept to “poach” Helle Hagenau – who is actually from Denmark – and worked as Secretary General in Norway’s “No to EU” in 2001. Lets face it, it has got to be worth a try, especially if it prevents a “Matthew Elliott” type with an over-inflated opinion of his self-importance getting his hands on the ‘No’ campaign tiller.

Just a couple of random thoughts – there will probably be others….…..

 


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6 Responses

  1. Woodsy42 says:

    I think you are rightabout labour and UKIP. If Miliband refuses a referendum there is a huge opportunity for UKIP to gain votes from annoyed Labour voters who wouldn’t ever dream of voting Conservative.

    • Nick says:

      Then those voters should never be allowed to vote. If they will not make a rational decision based upon evidence, historical track record and basic economic understanding they should be stripped of the franchise permanently.

      Currently voting is a pointless exercise but there are some people so incredibly dumb that they simply vote as their parents do, or as they have always done. This is an insanity that must be prevented.

      The only way to do that is to prevent people voting tribally and force them to vote with their heads.

      For everyone who goes to the polls a test should be presented – if you cannot complete it, you cannot vote. If you pass after being faced with the knowledge of where tax comes from, who pays it and the damage this does to the economy, you can at least be considered cognisant enough to have made a decision and are in full awareness of the facts.

      That should begin to sort the chaff out, the next step is to make that vote actually mean something instead of having the same men change ties for a year or so.

    • david says:

      W42: Like you I think this is a credible scenario – not too sure how long it will take for the penny to drop in Ukip though…..

  2. graham wood says:

    “Another factor which has come to mind is with reference to the assumption that following Cameron’s speech this morning he has shot the Ukip fox where Conservative-held marginals are concerned, thus removing the threat that Ukip might take Conservative votes, thereby letting Labour gain the seat.

    But this I suggest is only an assumption, and by no means has the UKIP fox been shot!
    In fact there now opens up an entirely new front and strategy for UKIP, namely to challenge Cameron on his “official re-negotiation” policy.
    UKIP can now throw down the gaunlet on an issue which the British public will quickly identify with – challenging Cameron to “repatriate” our fishing rights and waters out of the grip of the CFP.
    That would be a good start, and test of the genuineness of Cameron’s new policy and real intentions.

    • kenomeat says:

      It should be remembered that withdrawing from the CFP was one of the first Michael Howard policies that Cameron cancelled when he became leader. Can’t see him dying in a ditch over it now, otherwise he might (heaven forbid) be accused of hypocrisy. All the more reason for UKIP to challenge him on it.

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