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Who is this “We”, Cameron & Lidington

Stubbornness does have its helpful features.  You always know what you are going to be thinking tomorrow.”

Glen Beaman

Just over a year ago Richard North, EUReferendum, posed the question: “Who’s this “We”, Cameron” in relation to a question asked during Prime Minister’s Questions on the subject of Coastguard closures.

Lo and behold, today during the same event, namely PMQs, came not one but two more questions on the same subject, this time from Adrian Sanders (12:07) and Richard Drax (13:41):

Although the word “We” was changed to “This government’s” and “Our”, the implication and misinformation remain the same.

There was also today a debate in the House of Commons about “Europe” in which David Lidington also made use of the word “We” in a slightly misleading context (18:52) in which he implied that “We” had just concluded trade agreements with Singapore and South Korea and were about to conclude one with the United States of America. What he did not make clear is that said trade agreements were – and are about to be – made by the European Union acting on behalf of the Member States and to which said Member States will now be bound.

When one considers the UK’s relationship with the European Union, coupled with calls to re-think how politics is done in the UK, one can only quote Judge Judy:

“The time to change was yesterday. The time to wake-up is now.”

Two points to note

Matthew d’Ancona, writing in his usual Sunday Telegraph piece today:

“When Cameron warned his party to stop “banging on about Europe” in 2006, he was making a point about tone, not content. The Tories could no longer afford to seem shrill or behave like a single-issue pressure group: they needed to remind the voters of what they had to say about health, education and other public services. But Cameron’s Euroscepticism was undimmed. Consistently, throughout his leadership, he has believed that an opportunity would come to seek the repatriation from Brussels of key powers and to challenge Lord Denning’s sonorous opinion that European law “is like an incoming tide. It flows into the estuaries and up the rivers. It cannot be held back.” (Emphasis mine)

It was also clear that the matter would have to be settled by referendum. Though not a man given to introspection, Cameron does privately regret not making clear in his Sun article in September 2007 that his “cast-iron guarantee” of a vote on the Lisbon Treaty held good only until the agreement was fully ratified.”

Compare the emphasised four words with Cameron’s statement, in his speech, on the subject of securing an agreement which would include the repatriation of some powers – quote: “And when the referendum comes let me say now that if we can negotiate such an arrangement, I will campaign for it with all my heart and soul”. Where both d’Ancona and Cameron are concerned, one is reminded of Humpty Dumpty in “Through The Looking Glass”: “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

On the point mentioned in the second paragraph of the above extract, the statement that Cameron regrets not putting the caveat about ratification of the Lisbon Treaty in his cast-iron article, this point was picked up by Andrew Neil during hisSunday Politics* interview with David Lidington today. The latter was forced to concede that no caveat had been included but maintained that both Cameron and Hague had made the point elsewhere. Andrew Neil then confronted Lidington (at 13:03) with the news that the BBC had trawled all the “clippings” and nowhere had any evidence of Lidington’s claim been found. In rebuttal Liddington was adamant that both had but did not proffer any time, date or place – which would lead one to draw but one conclusion, no such caveat had ever been made.

One other point is worth noting and it is that Lidington repeated the oft-made claim that matters EU ranks way below subjects like jobs, the economy, immigration where the public are concerned – as did Rachael Reeves at the beginning of the programme when Neil quizzed here on Labour’s lack of clarity on the subject of granting a referendum. And those subjects are in no way related to the UK’s membership of the EU? Sheesh, politicians really do take for us for fools!

Just saying…………

* At the time of writing the repeat is not yet available.

Third annual German-British consultations on Europe

Minister of State Michael Link, and the British Minister for Europe David Lidington held their third German-British consultations on Europe in Berlin.

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These consultations focus on intensive exchange of views regarding strengthening of the Economic and Monetary Union and the British and German views on the future of the European Union. Other topics include growth, energy, environment and strategic partnerships in the European context, in particular with the USA. On the German side, State Secretaries of different Ministries who are responsible for European Affairs will take part in the consultations. From the UK will be travelling secretaries of state and ministers from Finance, Environment, Labor, Industry, as well as representatives of the British government parties.

The German-British consultations on Europe are held once a year. In 2011, they were initiated in Berlin, whereas the second meeting took place in June 2012, in London.” (My emphasis)

Source

David Cameron is on record as saying that while he is Prime Minister, we will never join the Euro.

Perchance, as we are “all in it together”, Lidington is preparing the ground for the “reddy” boys, come 2015?

Just asking………

And the people say?

Minister for Europe David Lidington has set out the UK’s continued commitment to EU enlargement following his participation in the General Affairs Council meeting in Brussels on 11 December. At a press briefing for European journalists today Foreign Office Minister David Lidington said:

“The UK remains a strong supporter of EU enlargement to all countries of the Western Balkans, Iceland and Turkey. I’ve just returned from the General Affairs Council in Brussels where I was pleased to have a long discussion on EU enlargement. Its conclusions make clear the EU’s continued support for enlargement. This is important, and a message that I hope will be heard clearly in the accession and pre-accession countries.

“Enlargement is good for the EU and one of the EU’s greatest achievements. The European Union, alongside NATO, has been an instrument of peace and reconciliation that has helped spread democracy and the rule of law across our continent, and helped make armed conflict between EU members unthinkable. At the same time an enlarged Single Market, another of the key success stories of the EU, has opened up prosperity and opportunity to hundreds of millions of people. An outward-looking approach and a continuing commitment to enlargement should be seen by all EU Member States as signs of strength and vigour.

“Enlargement is also good for wider security and prosperity across the continent. The accession of new Member States helps promote security, stability and prosperity across Europe, based on a firm foundation of democracy, human and civil rights, and respect for the law. The focus on good neighbourly relations is particularly important for a region such as the Western Balkans which saw conflict only two decades ago.

“It is a respect for this firm foundation and its benefits which drives the UK’s scrutiny of progress and focus on conditionality. So the UK is clear that there will be no pause after Croatia’s accession. But equally there will be no movement without progress on the ground.

“The Foreign Secretary visited Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia and Kosovo in October. He set out clearly the UK’s support for each country’s EU future. But he stressed to the political leaders that they needed to take the necessary steps to deliver. I hope political leaders in all of the aspiring countries will do so and that we will see further progress being made towards the EU early next year.

“And the UK remains committed to Turkey’s EU membership. We strongly believe that this would contribute to Europe’s prosperity and security, and the EU remains the strongest lever for reform in Turkey. We are focused on making real progress on the accession process in 2013 and we fully support the Irish Presidency in their desire to open a new acquis Chapter during their Presidency.”

Not only to we get a repetition of all that EU keeping the peace and spreading democracy crap, but to talk about opening up prosperity and opportunity to millions of people when the unemployment rate rose to 11.6% with 18.49 million people without jobs in the 17 countries sharing the euro kinda beggars belief where Lidington and logic go together.

The answer to the question posed as the heading to this post must surely be: I’m a pleb – get me out of here!

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